Rinceoir Cattery
About Us
My Personal Beginning
Rinceoir Cattery began in early 2012 after getting our first cream point Balinese, Mya. I ended up Falling in love with this cat, so much so that I decided I wanted to become a breeder. After a lot of hard work and research, a dream blossomed into reality. We started breeding Mya in 2014. Yes, you heard me right, we waited that long because I had things to learn before I jumped into this. In the first full year of operation, we had placed at least two litters of kittens and got to hold back our first (born) queen. At that stage, it was time to get a new male and keep heading in the direction I wanted to go. Within five years, I had created "my" first 4th gen cat. This 4th gen stud is still currently in our program and has sired at least 7 litters, possibly more (don't have the exact data in front of me). His ALC is only 7.3%, Diversity is 40.2%, and his COI is 0.0. (ALC and COI are explained on the home page).
​
Our Current Program
Since I started back in 2012, learning about breeding and research everything I could find, I have grown a lot. The experience has taught me a lot as well. Even though I have learned a lot, there are always more things I will learn along the way. Currently, we only have 4 to 5 litters a year. I are serious about quality. I want the best we can get in our Siamese and Balinese and we truly look for temperament and health. I want to put smiles on our clients faces while also getting to hear the joy they get from the kittens they have gotten from us, no matter their age.
​
I plan to stay small, although I do know there will be times when I have to have an extra queen or stud to extend my lines. My plan is to keep my female line going and exchange out my males as I need to, What this means is that my males help build my female lines. As those female lines are replaced from our current queens (meaning a kitten from one of their litters), the studs are retired. Every once in a while I may breed a queen and a stud that have no relation to any of the cats in my cattery, keep another stud from that litter, and add those two lines to the female lines I already have. There is also a chance that I will try to get one stud into all the queens I have here, except maybe one. That way the lines are the same.. but at the same time, they still vary slightly. This is just one part of what we currently do and what we plan to do.
As I also work with Partners, some of my partners want to stay small with only female cats (for now). So I have stepped up to the plate and I am willing to house a stud or two to help their programs. There is more about how our partnership works below. But this is just another aspect of what my current program is and what our cattery does. (I do have cats that have contracts behind them and I do keep to my contracts per cat. So there will be some lines here that are not allowed to go to another one of my partners.)
​
As far as ethics go, we do not breed our cats like rabbits. We also do not have accidental litters. All of my girls have 8 months from breeding to breeding. This means every queen has 2 months pregnant, 3 months with kittens (sometimes they get sick of the kittens by 8 weeks), and then they have a 3 month break before we breed them again. The point of doing this is not to over breed our females. We also do not want to wear them out as pregnancy can take a toll on the body. This also insures that the mother's are able to get to a good weight before we breed them again. Keep in mind there are instances where we go longer then 8 months between. If a queen has any issues with birthing, pregnancy, things like mastitis, or whatever the case maybe; we will give that queen a longer grace period, The health of my cats comes first and foremost, period.
​
Our cats and our kittens are family. Their needs come first. This is one of the reason's I have some of the practices I do.The way I look at our clients.. When someone gets a kitten/cat from us, they become family. That means for the life of the kitten/cat. See here is my theory, these kittens do not ask to be born and the adult cats do not asked be to bred. As we breed their adults, every kitten born here is my responsibility, Whether they are here or with their new families. This is one of the reason why I like having clients that keep in touch with me. There are more reasons as well. But I also offer to take a cat back if someone gets into a sticky situation. Like I said, from the day these kittens are born, they are my responsibility. Because I love these breeds as much as I do, I will go above and beyond for these cats and kittens. And that will NEVER change!
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
Our Mission
Since 2017, I have become a slightly bigger program. Nothing like some programs, as I try to keep things headed in the right direction, as I have explained on the home page. Our mission is tough. We are doing this to preserve the breed and for the love of the breed. We are not here to make a profit. All the funds we make go back into bettering our lines, the health of our cats, vetting, daily needs of the cats, cat scratching posts, toys, cleaning supplies, DNA testing, and so much more. We truly want this breed to thrive.
​
In the last 4 years, I have seen cats that have high ALC's. ALC's as high as 50% in some pedigrees, which to me is concerning. From some of those lines, I have seen cats that carry hereditary issues that no breeder would ever want to gamble with. Issues like Factor XII, and PRA, just to mention a few.. And those two issues in there own right are concerning. This is why my mission is so important.
The way genetics work when looking at hereditary problems. If one cat carries the gene but the other cat that was bred to the carrier does not carry the gene, the cat carrying the gene is not affected. But the carrier of the gene has a 50/50 chance of passing it on the next generation from that breeding. That 50% that got the gene, would be carriers. The other 50% have the possibility of not carrying this gene at all (However, the gene can also pop back up in a line 3 generations later in cat that has come from a carrier but is not a carrier. So do not think it is not possible for the gene to not crop back up! This is also another reason DNA testing is so important!). If a cat is breed to another cat that isn't DNA tested that carries the/a second copy of the gen and is bred to a queen with the same/alternate gene, this is what will happen. It is another 50/50 split. 50% of these kittens could be carriers, while 50% of these kittens would actually have the 2 copies of the gene and be seriously effected (at risk/suffer from). And these kittens would also be carriers that can pass the gen on to the next generation. So forth and so on. Now there are kittens that can still be born as not effect or carriers, but typically that is a long shot. Do you see a problem here? Now let me go into what the two gene's are that I mentioned above.....
​
Factor XII - Inherited - Recessive genetic disorder. Various anecdotal case reports describing an association between factor XII deficiency and spontaneous abortion, premature delivery, arterial and venous thromboses, myocardial infarction, and PE have been published, but a definite cause and effect relationship has not been established. FXII also plays an important role in inflammation, sepsis, and hereditary angioedema.
​
PRA (Progressive Retinal Atrophy) - Inherited - 'autosomal recessive disorder. This disorder effects a cats retina and can start as early as 0 - 2 years of a cat's life. PRA will cause Night blindness, Progressive vision loss, Reduction of the visual field, and Blindness.
​
As someone who wants to preserve this breed, These issues need to be avoided and trust me when I say there are many other disorders that are hereditary. Regardless, avoiding these issues and breeding away from them is complicated. But to preserve the breed and create healthier lines, as a breeder, we have to do everything we can to make sure our cats are healthy. That doesn't mean that there are test's for every little thing. We do DNA test, however, there is still a lot we have to learn. The programs we work with to test our cats DNA are working hard to find more things to test for. The only other problem we have is that not everyone is on board to help them find the other issues or advance their research. As a breeder with the mission and goals I have, if a cat or kitten dies on my watch, we do necropsies. We want to help those programs that test our DNA, so they can try to get further in their studies and research. And so they can possibly help make things easier for the cats sake and so we/they don't have missing links to some puzzles.
​
Our Vision
What we want to see is less genetic issues (both genetic and hereditary) with the Balinese and Siamese. We want to create cats that have healthy, long, and happy lives. With out better diversity, none of this would be possible. And we are grateful for the lines we have that are as diverse as they are. This is not to say that we have not run into snags along the way. Sometimes those snags are easy to handle and sometimes they can be complete losses/heartbreaking. Each situation can be different and will challenge even the best of breeders. But as a breeder, I have to remember what I am in this for. I have to overcome the heartbreak from the loss and keep trying to help these breeds. And let me tell you, that in itself is also challenging.
I love every cat in my program and every kitten born in my program. We spend hours on the phone talking to clients, learning about them while they learn about us. This is a dedication of love, not a lust for money (breeding should never be about gaining money. It should be about preserving and maintaining your cattery, as well as helping you build better lines as you go). We work for quality rather then quantity. To many people love the Siamese and Balinese lines, but at the same time, if we keep seeing the problems , as the ones I listed above (and that is only two examples), we stand a chance of losing this breed as a whole and breaking a lot of hearts along the way. So my vision is to work on these two breeds and try to correct problems we find. We have a goal of trying to make this breed healthy and more robust. We want them to have longevity of life. Trust me when I say, I have heard horror stories, people having their hearts broken because one of these cats died to young, and so much more..
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
Our Partnerships
We work in a partnership with other breeders, currently we have three other breeders we are working with. We have more that are joining our group. We would rather do a partnership then have/be mentors. This way we can learn as a group and help one another because there is always something you can learn from one another. When I say help one another, I don't mean just teaching or knowledge either. I also mean sharing lines, if we have lines with no restrictions. This way the whole group benefits. It also means that we become tight knit with one another, which makes each of us stronger in the long run.
Don't get me wrong, we work with a few breeders outside of our core group but for the most part, each of us have our own goals and programs. And for the most part, we respect one another's goals. The partnership is a team. If you know anything about teams, there is no I in team. The one goal we all have in common is preserving these two breeds. We all have a long road, but i think having a core group makes things less complicated. And yes, we do welcome breeders into our partnership. Personally, I think the more breeders that are willing to actually work together, makes it so much easier to preserve this breed.
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
​
Note To Other Breeders
We seriously need your help. This is one breeder to another and is seriously not an insult to anyone. It is a cry for help, honestly. Please DNA test your cats for defects. The more we know about our cats, the more we can avoid serious complications within the Siamese and Balinese. All I am truly asking for is that a percentage of us try to work towards improving these cats health and there is a few things you can do to help! If you have a cat that dies for any reason, please do a necropsy. Knowing the truth is important. As a community, we need to try and make testing our cats more accurate with more results. We need to help Cornell, UCF Davis, and other institutions that are trying to test DNA to find flaws when it comes to genetic disorders and the health of our cats. The only way we can do this, is if breeders are on board and are willing to help. And this means the majority of breeders.
​
The reason for this posting on this page is the reach out. I aim at no one specifically. All I am asking for is a little understanding from one breeder to another. November 2019 to June of 2020, was rough on me. What i went through I can never forget. Talking about it makes we sink. Because like I said above, these cats are family. So when something comes up, yes it hurts.. and when I say something.. I am talking about serious issues. Issues that I can't solve on my own. It is going to take a good number of us to help these institutions figure out some of the genetics behind some of the things they have not been about to actually research. And the reason they can't research any of this, is because there is not enough feed back from us when something goes wrong. so take this as you will. I hope you understand where i am coming from. But I am serious when I say, breeder to breeder.. We NEED your help.
